Heloisa and Rod,
I feel we've come at a fork in the road, and I'm a bit torn as to which path to take. On the one hand, it would be fascinating to analyze further the shifts I mentioned and the levels that Rod described. For example, I could point out that in my sketch of shifts, timelessness becomes clear on level four, rather than three, and the notion of an `I' doing or trying something is no longer present at level three, having left that behind at level two.
On the other hand, I also feel attracted to jumping in right away at the end, and really focusing on the furthest level, level 4 in Rod's terminology, the level beyond levels that includes all other levels, as Heloisa suggested in the first paragraph of her last contribution.
If we were
sitting together in one room,
without the current 500-word restrictions on each contribution, a
analysis of the various shifts and levels would be fun and inspiring.
our web based framework, it may be best to focus on the ultimate level,
now, which is actually what the working hypothesis squarely addresses.
I think it was useful to mention the possibility of identifying and sketching out a few shifts and levels, just to give some sense of the terrain when looking bottom-up, from the ordinary mind way of viewing to the ultimate view of the working hypothesis. However, when we really apply the working hypothesis, we have to adopt a top-down view, or more accurately, we have to accustom ourselves to there no longer being any `selves', nor `top', `view' or `time' to `do' anything in.
trying here to talk like a zen
person, cutting off all language by pointing out how each term is not
appropriate at the highest level. Rather, I'm trying to describe how to
with the working hypothesis, the way a scientist does, when confronted
Given that the three of
us have spent some
time exchanging descriptions of past experiences and of current views,
to make it clear that we are in basic agreement about the value of
about putting aside all that for a while? Instead, I suggest that each
will report how it is to hold the working hypothesis in mind for, say,
whole day, as much as we are able to.
I myself will attempt to do that, and report in a couple days. I invite you to do the same. We can then compare notes. Would that be okay with both of you?